But - I'm Not Chinese (Are Pilipinos Really Asian?)



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Asian American“But…I’m not Chinese…” – Dante Basco in The Debut

Ok, so maybe that quote won’t make it to the top 100 most memorable movie quotes of all time anytime soon (heck, this is probably the first time it’s ever made it onto any website for...anything), and maybe it’s not an experience that every Pilipino shares, but being mis-Asian-ized by others is quite a typical occurrence for a people whose ethnicity has always been defined (or undefined) by its mixed-ness. If you’re like me and sport a relatively pale complexion, were born to a nanay (mother) that looks like the Pilipino version of China, and hold a large percentage of Chinese blood in your heritage– then you probably know well the confused looks of people who see your face, see your Hispanic last name, yet sadly fail to see that you are, in fact... just Pilipino.

From Indonesian, to Chinese, to a semi-tan Taiwanese native, to half-Black half-Korean, to mistakenly being recognized as Disney's famous cartoon character, Aladdin - I've gotten it all. As someone who has been around all sorts of Asians – Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese, and Indonesians – I’ve noticed that within the Asian community, Pilipinos are seen as a special case, an exception, when it comes to categorization. We’re considered Asian, yet we’re also unique to the entire group. I’ve typically asked my friends questions such as, “Is he Asian?” and the typical response would be, “No, he’s Pilipino.” Clearly, the terms ‘Asian’ and ‘Pilipino’ are not as directly synonymous to one another as it would be for other ethnicities. “AZN” is a term more reserved for every other Asian race but the Pilipino people, as we have seemingly carved out our own unique cultural identity, yet also seem to be lost in the thick of things regarding such an identity.

Then there's the whole other issue of whether or not we even want to be referred to as 'Asians' in the first place, for I've come across many Pinoys who would rather stray away from that labeling and be called 'Pacific Islander' instead. It's interesting because, while Pilipinos are labeled Pacific Islanders,  Japanese and Taiwanese people (who also live on islands in the Pacific...or I might just be blind), for some reason, are excluded from this particular grouping.  Is it  because Japanese and Taiwanese people better fit the look and feel of 'Asian-ness' than Pilipinos do or are we just confusing  the term 'Asian' with 'Oriental' - 'Pacific Islander' with 'Not Asian'?

To our credit,  the larger Asian community around us has truly begun to recognize and embrace our people as being some of the most talented artists and entertainers in the world (especially with Pilipino artists practically owning YouTube and America’s Best Dance Crew), helping turn the tides of the stereotypical stigmas that have forever been attached to Asians. In fact, many of my friends  jokingly refer to Pilipinos as the ‘black Asians’ who continually set the standards in singing and dancing for the larger ethnic onclave. But in spite of all this, the larger question still remains – are we really Asian? Do we fit into any one specific category or are we clearly just our own ethnic group?

We’re such a mixed people and we’ve always been defined by the diversity in our blood and the exoticness in our looks - but can we truly be called Asians? All Pilipinos either have some Indo-Malay blood, Hispanic blood, or Chinese blood, and a whole bunch of other bloodlines within their heritage, truly making us a people of many colors. You’ve all undoubtedly heard of the many levels of Pilipino-ness, from Chinita (paler skin, more Asian-looking eyes) to Mestizo (more Hispanic-European looking) to Moreno (darker-Malay features), and how Pilipinos, like the Spanish, can cover many bases of ethnic appearance. For those who don’t consider Pilipinos to be Asian, what happens to those Pilipinos who clearly look Chinese and have Chinese blood in their heritage? Are only the Asian-looking Pilipinos allowed to be considered a part of that group? Should Pilipinos just be regarded by whatever ethnicity they look like (Chinese, Hispanic, American, Hispanic-Chinese – we’ve all gotten some kind of variation)? Or should Pilipinos just be labeled Pacific-Islanders to avoid any further confusion?

In the broad scope of things, maybe it really isn’t such a big issue that needs heavy debating. It doesn’t make sense for us either way, for our culture has never been defined on such terms - we are a people of many colors and cultures (you can see it just by eating our food) with a long history of colonial oppression and international relations to draw from (from Spain, to Japan, to the United States). What makes us special is that amidst all the cultural amalgamation and mixing we’ve experienced as a people, we’ve still managed to come out of it holding a very clear sense of Pilipino-ness that no drop of mixed blood, mixed look, or miscategorization can take away. All I know is that at the end of the day, when I hear that accent and those F’s become P’s, when I smell that spam crackling with a good lump of white rice waiting on the side, and when I see that magic mic set and ready for an onslaught of spit and high C’s, I know that I am surely Pilipino. Bubble in all else that apply.

[Here is a very enlightening video by Pilipino-American vlogger, Jokway, that answers the question of whether Pilipinos are really Asian, providing added insight on what it means to be Pilipino and further examining how we as a race fit into the whole scheme of things when it comes to the touchy subject of ethnic labeling]: 

It’s Asian-Pacific Heritage month – let your voice be heard! What do you think about Pilipinos being considered or not considered as part of the Asian enclave? Does it really matter? Tsismis na!

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mawreeuhh's picture

Interesting! So when it comes

Interesting! So when it comes down to filling out forms and applications, what box do you check off, Asian or Pacific Islander? It had always bothered me in trying to figure out which one I HAD to categorize myself as. I've come to notice nowadays that more forms and documents offer "Filipino" as category by itself, probably heeding to the uncertainty/ambiguity/indecision among us. But for those that don’t give me that “Filipino” option, I personally choose whatever I feel like at the time. Is it bad to be considered Asian? Why is it better to be considered Pacific Islander? It’s unfortunate that we have to choose one or the other because our ethnicity has become such a melting pot of many different cultures it’s one that should stand on its own.

I admit that I can't help but feel pretty cool when that paper has a box with just "Filipino" next to it.

hoboflips's picture

WE ARE BOTH

The problem with this debate is that there isn't enough anthropological data about this. Not enough Filipinos going into that field I guess. But speaking with a friend that has been doing this research for years, we have ties to both.

My conclusion, it's both. We are both.

Now I don't know why it is I have felt rejection from both identities, Asian/Pacific Islander, but we are all populated by the same original settlers. The Austronesians that populated most of the Southeast Asian and all the Pacific Islands. Language-wise we have similar words. If we look into our indigenous cultures, we can see the similarities with both Pacific Islander and Asian.
The Sarimanok can be traced to Maori mythology. The tattooing style found in most indigenous tribes in the Phils. have similar patterns that can be found in many Pacific Islander styles. No one is biting off each other, but our ancestors came from the same place. We also have settlers from the Malay race. And all the Chinese and Indian traders that have come through the Phils, establishes the Asian. The Phils has very diverse people and unique because we have this incredible mix of races and inhabitants. We have to accept that it's mixed.

We seriously have to allow people to define themselves, because of the lack of information that is available out there. Until we can solidify our ancestral roots, people will still be in this limbo... as for me, We are both.

Bamboozlah's picture

mhmm

In my 5 years in America I've been called a Pacific Islander only once. Most of the people that I actually met asks me right away "are you Filipino." As for the question whether if one is Filipino enough, I say your Filipino when you know your one even if you don't look like one.

jackygalinggalan's picture

simply. i just say

simply. i just say filipino.
where i live, i'm surrounded by mainly mexicans and whites. people call me 'thats asian girl' or 'filipina' or my guy friends, 'asian sensation' i would label myself as pacific islander because somewhat, it has some truth to it. although Japan and Taiwan are obviously considered 'asian' i allow people to label me as asian because its just much more easier to explain than pacific islander or going into depth as to how filipinos are not asian. simply enough, i say filipino. &let those who wish, to call me asian. so much easier in my opinion.

ClaireYu's picture

dude haha. I just found you

dude haha. I just found you freaken right away. hhaa I can't believe you actually replied! ;p

jackygalinggalan's picture

i like how it posted three

i like how it posted three times cause im killing time at school &these computers are so slow):

jackygalinggalan's picture

simply. i just say

simply. i just say filipino.
where i live, i'm surrounded by mainly mexicans and whites. people call me 'thats asian girl' or 'filipina' or my guy friends, 'asian sensation' i would label myself as pacific islander because somewhat, it has some truth to it. although Japan and Taiwan are obviously considered 'asian' i allow people to label me as asian because its just much more easier to explain than pacific islander or going into depth as to how filipinos are not asian. simply enough, i say filipino. &let those who wish, to call me asian. so much easier in my opinion.

k_woww's picture

just say "Filipino."

p.s. This was a great article! Thank you for establishing this discussion.

k_woww's picture

just say "Filipino."

Growing up in a racially diverse neighborhood of Mexican Americans, Vietnamese, Filipinos, Cambodians, and Samoans, your heritage isn't exactly a hot topic on the playground. However, when I moved to California's Central Valley, I was immediately aware that I stuck out like a sore thumb. Because I looked "Asian" to many, that's what I became to them. And when some of my classmates heard I was Filipino, they wisened up and reasoned, "No, no, she's a Pacific Islander." And back and forth they would debate, while I would sit idly by and reflect on what being either REALLY means.

And now as I sit here typing this, I realize it means NOTHING. We are Filipino, that is all, and if one wants to identify him or herself as Asian or Pacific Islander, that is entirely up to them and how they were raised. We already have our own bubble to fill in for the SATs and Census...do we really need to debate a useless category?

Also, I've always believed something that DOES need to be discussed is why some Filipino-Americans are so adamant to be called "Pacific Islanders" and actually get offended when they are referred to as "Asian"? Why is being called "Asian" a bad thing? Has anyone else ever noticed this? Or am I just the only one who has friends with identity crises?

deebeedee's picture

Blame it on Disneyland

It's helped spread the misconception by placing the lone Filipina in the Small World ride in the Pacific room and not the Asia room.

MabelleX's picture

Personal experience

I'm half Samoan, and from that, i can say that Samoans don't like it whn Filipinos claim Pacific Islander.
Filipinos are Asian. If you're uncomfortable with it, then just stick to Filipino. Simple as can be.

MabelleX's picture

NOT Pacific Islander

I'm half Samoan, and I'd say that my polynesian family doesn't like it when Filipinos label themselves Pacific Islander.
Asian over Pacific Islander.

Antithesis's picture

Filipinos fall under BOTH categories..

It's as simple as that.

jaylegaspi's picture

Ahh sweet Identity Politic...

Thanks for the insightful post!

I'd just like to point out that for the most part, Identity Politics are never ever as clearly laid out as anyone would hope them to be.

In essence, there are facts, but facts change-- the official definition of Pacific Islands may not necessarily include the Philippines, but please remember, the term Pilipino used to refer to people of Spanish descent born in the Philippines. Those with native blood were either mestizos or indios. In the same light, the official definition of the Pacific Islands may end up including the Philippines, Japan, Taiwan, etc. You honestly never know--lines get drawn and redrawn.

I personally identify myself as Pilipino first then Southeast Asian, but if someone's experience leads them to identify themselves more as Pacific Islander, I don't necessarily see the issue there--especially in the US, where often times the term has been used to separate Pilipinos from the rest of Asia, not really out of spite, but to try and carve out a voice in such a racially diverse country.

dodds's picture

american relations

i commented on how one can choose whatever identity they want to below, but just wanted to post a point on the pacific islander side (beside the whole "technicality" or the "its cool" points).

the philippines has a relationship to the united states unlike any other country in asia. as a former colony, to a neocolony in practice, we have a lot more in common with guam, hawaii, american samoa, puerto rico, cuba, etc, then we do with mainland asian countries.

huge american cultural influences with the macdo's and the commercialism, the presence and activity of military bases, and american economic and political control; we are just as oppressed as many current pacific island nations and can understand their struggles better than taiwan or japan or other considered islands in the pacific.

Christian Cabuay's picture

A Filam thing

Having lived in the Philippines for many years, this question only comes up with Filams. There are many reasons why one would call themselves a Pacific Islander besides the Philippines is an island arguement....
- It's cool - Who doesn't want to be from a "paradise island".
- Race - To distance themselves from Chinese because the ain't "cool" yet. The Western world pokes fun of Asians being nerds with small peckers. Who want's to be part of that crowd?
- Sex - It's sexier to be a pacific islander in our society.

ianbamp's picture

I think Filipinos are Asian.

I think that we're Asian simply because of our close proximity to the mainland continent of Asia. We're not that far. Call me really dumb, but it seems like thats the case for Taiwan and Japan. I really don't understand why people would be so cheeky as to say that Filipinos are Pacific Islanders. Yes, we are descended from the same people. However, centuries of mating with different groups of people have separated Filipinos from real Pacific Islanders. I also understand that we're in the Pacific Ocean. That's true, but wouldn't that mean the same thing for Japan and Taiwan.

I know that this has been reiterated over and over again in previous posts, but the term "Pacific Islander" only refers to those who are within the boundaries of the regions of Polynesia, Melanesia, and Micronesia. Namely, these regions include Guam, Hawaii, Fiji, Tonga, Australia, New Zealand and other extremely small countries in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. The Philippines is not within those boundaries.

Simply put, because of our separation from real Pacific Islanders, our close proximity to Asia, and the fact that the Philippines is not in Oceania, we are indeed Asian.

regidongeneral20's picture

Excluded

Inhabitants of the following islands and regions are not considered to be Pacific Islanders: Russia's Kuril Islands, Alaska's Aleutian Islands, Taiwan, Japan, Philippines, Indonesia, as they are not located within the three regions of Oceania (Polynesia, Micronesia and Melanesia).

MabelleX's picture

AGREE

I try explaining this to my fellow Filipinos. PACIFIC ISLANDER=OCEANIA.

mongolpencil's picture

I also want to add that the

I also want to add that the boundaries of 'Asia' has shifted throughout the centuries. It used to be a term referring to parts of Turkey. European cartographers drew the lines down the Ural Mountains, to distinguish Europeans and non-Europeans. It's all subjective, really.

mongolpencil's picture

People who are from the

People who are from the Philippines generally identify as Southeast Asian. It's what is taught in Civics and Culture class since primary school. The nation has a strong presence on the ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations), and compete in the ASEAN Games (similar to the Olympics. There is no question of Asian-ness for most Filipinos in the Philippines.

When I moved to San Francisco, I became confused because some people used the term Pacific Islander, which to be perfectly honest (no disrespect) I had never heard before. I would correct my Filipino-American friends, then gradually came to realize that there really is no difference. Why can't Filipinos be both?

The peoples of Micronesia, Melanesia are Malayo-Polynesians descended from the peoples of Asia who simply migrated to the Pacific Islands. These are the same descendants of the first inhabitants of the Philippines, theorized to be from Malaysia, China, Indonesia.

Physically speaking, it's very difficult to differentiate between Cambodians, Laos, Indonesians, Malaysians, Burmese, Thai (non-Chinese), Vietnamese (non-Chinese), and Filipinos. Then again, the same can be said for Hawaiians, Guamanians, Filipinos, and the other ethnic groups mentioned above.

My theory? In the United States, most people automatically associate "Asian" with East Asian (Chinese, Japanese, Korean), so that persons of Southeast Asian, South Asian (Indian, Pakistani, Sri Lankan, Bangladeshi, Nepali), or Central Asian (Afghani, Mongolian, Tibetan, Bhutanese) descent aren't necessarily included in the common perception. Because of this, some Filipino-Americans might choose to identify as other than Asian.

Matt Aczon's picture

the first time i've heard

the first time i've heard filipinos described as asians was on a news documentary on gangs in LA. apparently the largest asian gang in LA at the time were comprised mostly of filipinos. they showed pictures of (what i assumed to be) filipinos with tattoos on their forearms saying "asian pride". before seeing this on tv, i've always considered filipinos as filipinos.

as for being called a pacific islander, that never occured to me either since i've spent most of my life (and am currently) in hawaii. i went to highschool with samoan and tongan football players, both of which i felt had no relation to the filipinos that were in the drama club (with me).

but none of this ever bothered me whether i was called an asian or a pacific islander. i think of these labels as isles in a grocery store. for convenience sake.

ryki09's picture

I've always identified with

I've always identified with being Asian, specifically a Southeast Asian especially since I grew up in PI. It wasn't until I moved here that people told me I was something else. I guess it all boils down to what people perceive who Asians should be, which is usually the "stereotypical Asian."

jemellee's picture

back and forth

i've always said asian, but then sometimes pacific islander. it's definitely confusing how to label ourselves. I've always gotten the spanish side of Filipino especially since I got a spanish last name.

dodds's picture

ethnically ambiguous

i think that one can claim whatever background they want, to whatever the situation, as long as they are properly informed, and don't have malicious or political reasons for choosing a "side" or "sides". categories are comforting for our simple [human] minds as most people like to deal with absolutes rather then a continuum, or multiple identities. take gender (not sex) for example; most folks take to truth that someone is a male or a female, whereas in many cultures there is often 3 to 5 genders. if person "b" does not fit into a designated category, others (like person "a") are unsure of how to deal with them and this makes person "a" uncomfortable and no longer in control of their social world. this is the phenomenon of social constructs (e.g. gender, race). we like to deal with absolute categories so that we can rely on stereotypes/assumptions/etc (from whatever sources) on how to deal with and approach people. there is an innocence to it, though often an ignorance to it as well (more often then not).

i've been trying to understand the asian vs pacific islander thing for a while now. ever since my first regional filam conference in 2003 til now, and ive almost concluded that it is up to the individual as long as they (i reiterate) are well informed of history, politics, struggles, census use, etc, and to not take everything so literal, so absolute. why not claim the continuum, the multiple identities, the halo halo that is p/filipino, the relativity of the notion of identity?

we are at a crossroads from a geopolitical/cultural standpoint just as any peoples are. we cant really ask the what(e.g what sterotypes do i fulfill), but instead the why's; why do we choose to identify with a larger group or many groups, why cant we be part of many groups simultaneously, why are people obsessed on defining us? belonging to one group alone does not solidify our identity, it weakens it, makes it exclusive, separate. we should rather look to the similarities between our histories and cultures, in respect to other nations and ethnicities, and through those similarities build the bridges empower everyone.

we are geographically in asia, but we have a more similar political relationship to the united states as pacific island nations. our culture and our genetic makeup is a blend of everything from malay, to latino, to european, to american...

we are ethnically ambiguous, and its not a bad thing.

p.s. for pc/census definitions, API is no longer a group in the US government's eyes. asian is separate from pacific islander which is now NHOPI (native hawaiian and other pacific islanders). so then are we "a" or "nhopi" now? haha.

pps. for every argument there is a counter argument, and always an exception to the rule.

infused08's picture

Hmmmm...

I've always said that Pilipinos are Asian because of the location. I understand why people consider Pilipinos Pacific Islanders because living on Guam, a Pacific Island, every one "looked" Pilipino having the light to dark skin variation.

Hmm... can't decide now.

SPAMi's picture

Location, Location, Location.

I've only been mistaken for Japanese/Okinawan Asian-wise. One time I was mistaken for a Mexican due to my darker complexion. But I believe we are definitely Asian, being that the Philippines is apart of the Asian continent. Not only that, it's nearer to Asia compared some of the other Pacific Islands.

I count Pacific Islanders as people from the smaller archipelagos in the Pacific like Samoa, Tahiti, Hawaii, etc.

Also being that, that means Pakistanis, Iraqis, Israelis, all those East-Asia countries are also Asian - not just Middle-Eastern.
Doesn't matter your skin type, eye shape, or religions, but I guess to where your originating-country sits on the world.

kaywan's picture

haha what's up with the post

haha what's up with the post picture?

jonathan's picture

haha jer put it up there. I

haha jer put it up there. I guess he put it up cus he thought it was the diverse-iest mix of filipino looks he could find in one picture? haha

kaywan's picture

I didn't give consent to post

I didn't give consent to post my pic! haha that pic is actually of the NorCal BW team circa September 2008 :)

Frederick_Alain's picture

I've been debating this topic for years...

Thanks for this article, Jonathan!

I have had more than my share of discussions with different people over the years about this exact topic. My whole point is that since the Philippines is a part of Southeast Asia, Pilipinos are Asians.

But, all things considered though, I guess what it all boils down to is that it is a personal preference what each individual chooses to identify with in regards to being labeled.

jrgutier's picture

Look it up in an encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Islands
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Islander

Filipinos are not Pacific Islanders. Just because the islands are in the Pacific Ocean, it doesn't mean we're not Asian. With that same reasoning, New Zeland and Japan would be grouped with the rest of Oceana.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oceania

Ryne's picture

More Debut

This reminds me of that scene in The Debut where they're eating dinner, and the white guy is spouting off how Filipinos are Pacific Islanders. Everyone but his wife is looking at each other confused, while she's soaking it all up.

But yeah, it isn't an opinion that Filipinos aren't Pacific Islanders (not that there's anything wrong with that)...it's fact. The name Pacific Island isn't to be taken too literally, but it's a label for people from Polynesia, Micronesia, and Melanesia.

dodds's picture

wassup ryne

finally decided to post on this thing haha. the global pin@y internet community brought to fruition.

nyc_pinoy's picture

I've always been one of those

I've always been one of those people that claimed to be "Pacific Islander." I don't consider myself Asian mostly because I don't feel the cultural connection there. A lot of my friends wondered why I had to be so difficult and just call myself Asian already... but honestly I'm proud to call myself Pacific Islander. That's just who I am.

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